Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/02/2004 01:55 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 378                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating  to the Alaska Food, Drug,  and Cosmetic                                                                   
     Act,  including  sales,  advertising,  certain  devices,                                                                   
     food donors,  and food banks; making  certain violations                                                                   
     of  organic  food provisions  and  of the  Alaska  Food,                                                                   
     Drug,  and Cosmetic  Act unfair  methods of  competition                                                                   
     and unfair or deceptive acts  or practices under certain                                                                   
     of  the  state's  unfair trade  practices  and  consumer                                                                   
     protection laws; and providing for an effective date.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BILL  WILLIAMS explained that  the legislation                                                                   
was  introduced as  a  result of  complaints  his office  had                                                                   
received regarding food inspections  throughout Alaska.  Last                                                                   
year,  he   noted  that  he   had  requested   Department  of                                                                   
Environmental  Conservation to determine  a plan  and through                                                                   
collaborative effort  between the Department and  his office,                                                                   
HB 378 was created.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
GERALDINE  MCINTOSH,  STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE  BILL  WILLIAMS,                                                                   
explained  that HB  378 would  amend provisions  in Title  17                                                                   
relating to the powers of the  Commissioner of the Department                                                                   
of Environmental  Conservation  relating to  food offered  or                                                                   
sold to the public.  The bill  would make it possible for the                                                                   
Department  to  require  food-handling  operators  to  become                                                                   
trained,  certified   and  assess  fines.     Both  of  those                                                                   
capacities  are  needed  as  part  of  the  new  food  safety                                                                   
paradigm, Active Managerial Control.   Also, the bill defines                                                                   
labeling or  advertising violations  of the unfair  trade and                                                                   
consumer protection provisions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Currently,  AS 17.20.005  allows  the Commissioner  to  issue                                                                   
orders,  regulations,  permits,  embargoes  and  quarantines.                                                                   
That   includes  inspection,   sanitation   standards,   food                                                                   
handling methods and labeling.   Under the proposed bill, the                                                                   
Commissioner  would  have  additional   authority  to  ensure                                                                   
knowledge of  food safety and  sanitation by individuals  who                                                                   
handle  or  prepare  food  for the  public  and  persons  who                                                                   
supervise or employ  those individuals.  The  bill authorizes                                                                   
the Department to impose a civil  fine for a violation of the                                                                   
Alaska Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. McIntosh added that HB 378  clarifies that a violation of                                                                   
provision,  AS 17.20,  or a violation  of the  representation                                                                   
requirement  in  AS  17.06,  as  unfair  or  deceptive  trade                                                                   
practices  under  Alaska  Statutes.   The  legislation  would                                                                   
allow the Attorney  General's office to  investigate labeling                                                                   
violations that are not food safety or sanitation concerns.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze  inquired  if the  legislation  would                                                                   
supercede  programs that  the  municipalities  could have  in                                                                   
place.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN  RYAN, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ENVIRONMENTAL  HEALTH,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION,  responded that the                                                                   
Food  Safety  and  Sanitation  program  has  the  ability  to                                                                   
delegate the program to local  municipalities and has done so                                                                   
in  Anchorage.     The   changes  would   not  impact   those                                                                   
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft asked how  "active managerial  control"                                                                   
would differ  from the current  system.   Ms.  Ryan explained                                                                   
currently,  the State  relies  on inspections  by  government                                                                   
employees to  insure food safety.   The legislation  proposes                                                                   
to transfer  some responsibility  to the managers  and owners                                                                   
of the  retail food establishments.   That would  mean, "more                                                                   
control  in their  hands"  to  insure that  food  is safe  by                                                                   
requiring  that food handlers  and managers  are trained  and                                                                   
certified.   Active  managerial  control  indicates that  the                                                                   
control  is  moving into  the  hands  of the  food  handlers.                                                                   
Inspections  will  continue,   but  the  past  rate  was  not                                                                   
sufficient.   In the highest  facilities, the  Department was                                                                   
able to  send one  inspector a  year, 60% of  the time.   She                                                                   
added that there are approximately  5,000 establishments with                                                                   
only eighteen inspectors.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft questioned  if "self inspection"  would                                                                   
really  work   when  a  company  is  violating   food  safety                                                                   
regulations.     Ms.  Ryan   stated  that  the   Department's                                                                   
inspections  will not  decrease, however,  in addition,  they                                                                   
will  be  requiring  self-inspections   as  well  as  placing                                                                   
certified operators in each establishment.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Croft  was  skeptical   that  it   would  be                                                                   
"realistic to  think that a  business would report  their own                                                                   
violations".   Ms.  Ryan  responded that  this  was a  common                                                                   
model  in the  environmental  field  and that  companies  are                                                                   
responsible for insuring themselves.   It is the government's                                                                   
obligation  to  check  to  make   sure  that  information  is                                                                   
accurate.   It may seem  that they would  not want  to report                                                                   
their  own violations,  however,  what it  does is  set up  a                                                                   
mechanism for  them to check  their establishment.   When the                                                                   
reports  are submitted,  if they  are  shown to  be false  or                                                                   
wrong, that establishment would  be charged with breaking the                                                                   
law.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  stated that  it  would  be a  "passive                                                                   
model" on  the part of  the State.   Ms. Ryan countered  that                                                                   
the Department's  obligation would  not be decreasing  but it                                                                   
would be  shared responsibility  with businesses.   She noted                                                                   
that this  is a common problem  throughout the  United States                                                                   
and  that  no  state  has enough  resources  to  do  all  the                                                                   
inspections.   There are 5,000  establishments.   Every state                                                                   
is attempting to  come up with a model to help  address needs                                                                   
and  financial concerns.   In  the past,  the only  enforcing                                                                   
authority was  the inspector's  authority to issue  a "Notice                                                                   
of Violation" or to close the facility.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft inquired the  history of the  number of                                                                   
inspections  over the  past decade.   Ms.  Ryan advised  that                                                                   
number has stayed  steady.  The average of  what an inspector                                                                   
is capable  of has  stayed the same;  however, the  number of                                                                   
inspectors doing the work, over  the years, has been reduced.                                                                   
She pointed out  that last year there was a  reduction of six                                                                   
inspectors.   That current  system does not  work.   Ms. Ryan                                                                   
reiterated that the  number does fluctuate and  usually 40% -                                                                   
60% of  the establishments  are inspected.   The goal  is 80%                                                                   
and it has never been reached.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze  understood  that  the  certification                                                                   
program would  establish guidelines.   Ms. Ryan  acknowledged                                                                   
that was  the intent of the  legislation.  It  will guarantee                                                                   
that  a food  safety worker,  working in  a remote  community                                                                   
will have  the same training as  someone in a community  on a                                                                   
road system.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft referenced Sections  2 & 3,  which adds                                                                   
sub paragraph #5,  the aquatic farms.  Ms.  Ryan advised that                                                                   
there  are  changes  in  the bill  that  are  corrections  or                                                                   
additions  to enforcement  statutory  authority and  labeling                                                                   
violations.   The  reference  referred  to by  Representative                                                                   
Croft, outlines  the relationship of who will  be responsible                                                                   
for each section statute.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris  asked  about  the  $210.0  thousand  dollar                                                                   
operating  fiscal note  submitted by  the Department,  noting                                                                   
the  decline  in  FY06.   Ms.  Ryan  explained  that  relates                                                                   
primarily to the  purchase of the training  and certification                                                                   
on-line equipment  needed.   It would be  a one-time  cost of                                                                   
approximately $70 thousand dollars for the database.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris   inquired  how  the  Division   anticipates                                                                   
receiving their receipt  money.  Ms. Ryan indicated  that the                                                                   
Department proposed  charging a $10  dollar fee for  the food                                                                   
handler certification.  The fee  and certification would last                                                                   
for three  years.   It is similar  to a  model used  by other                                                                   
states.  She  stressed that the fee was reasonable  and would                                                                   
help maintain that aspect of the program.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris pointed out two  new employees.  He noted the                                                                   
$80 thousand dollars anticipated  in new revenue for FY05 and                                                                   
asked if  it would come from  receipt support services.   Ms.                                                                   
Ryan acknowledged  that at this  time in that  component, the                                                                   
Department does over collect.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Harris  asked   if   the  Department   anticipates                                                                   
collecting  $290 thousand  dollars.   Ms. Ryan explained  the                                                                   
fluctuation in revenue sources  resulting from changes in the                                                                   
three-year cycle for  the renewal of the permit  and the slow                                                                   
inception  of  the requirement.    She  noted the  intent  of                                                                   
implanting  the  program slowly.    The Department  does  not                                                                   
anticipate a large number of people  coming forward the first                                                                   
year, as it will  not be required until FY06.   This would be                                                                   
a tri-annual fee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  asked if  fees would  be decreasing.   Ms.                                                                   
Ryan responded  that the Department  has proposed  drafting a                                                                   
regulation to decrease permit fees.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stoltze  requested an example of  violation to                                                                   
the  organic food  provision.   Ms.  Ryan  could not  provide                                                                   
that.   She pointed out that  would be the  responsibility of                                                                   
the Division of Agriculture.   She understood that the impact                                                                   
would    address   misbranding    and   labeling    problems.                                                                   
Representative Stoltze noted that  he did have an interest in                                                                   
the  labeling  for organic  foods  and  asked that  Ms.  Ryan                                                                   
follow-up on that concern.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ELISE  HSIEH,   (TESTIFIED  VIA  TELECONFERENCE),   ASSISTANT                                                                   
ATTORNEY GENERAL,  DEPARTMENT OF  LAW, ANCHORAGE,  offered to                                                                   
answer questions of the Committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  asked if schools in the  bush would be                                                                   
exempt from  the proposed regulation.   Ms. Ryan  stated that                                                                   
they would  not be exempt,  however, the Department  has been                                                                   
working closely to  determine ways to easily  implement it in                                                                   
those areas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris asked if the proposed  legislation would be a                                                                   
"burden" to  rural Alaska.   Representative Foster  suggested                                                                   
that  the  costs could  be  absorbed  by a  school  district,                                                                   
however,  he   wondered  how  it  would  affect   workers  in                                                                   
locations  outside the  big cities.    Ms. Ryan  acknowledged                                                                   
that had been a concern for the  Division and that it was not                                                                   
the intent to create a program  that would not work for rural                                                                   
Alaska.    That   is  why  the  Division  is   proposing  the                                                                   
interactive website, as a way  for training and certification                                                                   
to happen.  In communities that  are unable to take the tests                                                                   
in  that way,  there  will be  proctor exams  set  up by  the                                                                   
inspectors  in those locations.   She  reiterated that  it is                                                                   
the Department's  intent to  make the  test as accessible  as                                                                   
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Harris   voiced  concern   with   the   unintended                                                                   
consequences of  passing the legislation.   He noted  that he                                                                   
did  support  the  bill  but asked  to  hear  about  on-going                                                                   
efforts in rural  Alaska.  He did not want  to see violations                                                                   
in those  areas.  Ms. Ryan  acknowledged that was  a priority                                                                   
and that  the Division  wants the system  to be effective  no                                                                   
matter where the person is located in the State.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster   MOVED  to  report  HB   378  out  of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB   378  was   reported  out   of  Committee   with  a   "no                                                                   
recommendation" and  with zero note  #1 by the  Department of                                                                   
Law and  fiscal note  #2 by the  Department of  Environmental                                                                   
Conservation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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